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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:34 AM // 10:34   #1
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Default Chillblains + Auspicious Incantation = Energy Engine?

With Conjure Nightmare down to 15 Energy, would this be a viable option? The need for a curses attribute is zero, and you get an area enchantment removal. A Mesmer's fast casting also drops the 2 second cast down a bit.

Not exactly the next gamebreaker, but eh, just a thought.

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Old Nov 13, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47   #2
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That also requires the mesmer to go Me/N, which is a pretty useless secondary.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50   #3
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lies, you can go sig illusions and rising bile!
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #4
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I remember seeing people use this before the change to Conjure Nightmare but just bringing GoLE instead of Auspicious seems to work find for that build now.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #5
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We ran it for a bit on a n/me with hexes (:P) and it worked pretty well all in all. It could work, but it's pretty unnecessary atm, I think we only ran it at first to mess around and test random things.

There really isn't any decent reason to run it over glyph, the enchant removal is so unlikely to really do anything.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41   #6
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That also requires the mesmer to go Me/N, which is a pretty useless secondary.
So you'd have to take DPS on a warrior instead. Big deal.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47   #7
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Gah. I was wondering if GoLE was going to beat it out. Oh well.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25   #8
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It has good synergy with auspicious. However, you automatically tie 2 skill slots for e management, you are locked to Me/N, and auspicious has a few fragile aspects to it as well (hope your chilblains doesn't get interrupted).
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #9
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Auspicious isn't used up if Chilblains is interrupted.

I still like [skill]Ethereal Burden[/skill][skill]Kitah's Burden[/skill] with Auspicious Incantation. Yes it's two slots, but they also double up as snares.
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #10
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Auspicious isn't used up if Chilblains is interrupted.
But you have to sit around doing nothing for 8 seconds and wait for Chilblains to recharge (or blow the Auspicious on a lesser spell) - not good. I wouldn't even think about using this combo until Chilblains is changed to a 1 second cast.

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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58   #11
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Auspicious isn't used up if Chilblains is interrupted.
True, but your 25 energy is. I often find myself using this combo at 35-40 energy. If you are interrupted, now you are sitting with <10 energy (probably in your high set to fuel the AC>Chilblains combo) waiting to cast chilblains again so you can get your energy. Moreover, if it gets hit with a dshot, you are forced to either sit for 25 seconds or use one of your cheap spells, not get a decent energy return, and disable one of your other spells you probably didn't want to disable.

meh, don't get me wrong I love this combo and use it a lot, I am just sharing some of my "experiences" with it
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Old Nov 14, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49   #12
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Auspicious isn't used up if Chilblains is interrupted.
Failing a cast under AI is like p-leaking yourself.
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #13
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Hell, I was trying out Auspicious with Lightning Hammer.
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 07:25 AM // 07:25   #14
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Balth's Aura is the only other skill that comes to mind... Sig of Illusions Mesmer perhaps?
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 10:39 AM // 10:39   #15
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If you ran a me/mo sig of illusions smiter in a hex build, you could also bring scourge healing and scourge enchantment to punish party-healing, prots, and aegis. And then maybe some of the usual degen hexes and anti-warrior crap too.
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Old Nov 17, 2007, 11:43 AM // 11:43   #16
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Unspecced Deep Freeze!

Or just, y'know, run GoLE.
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Old Nov 18, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00   #17
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Balth's Aura is the only other skill that comes to mind... Sig of Illusions Mesmer perhaps?
Why do that when you can run SoI with Splinter weapon?
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Old Nov 18, 2007, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #18
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why run that when you can just run splinter?

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